Will Long be ready for Bears’ season-opener?

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Aug 24, 2016 5:15:22 GMT -6 @soulman said:

Aug 24, 2016 5:05:03 GMT -6 @bearsinhouston said:

Ok, what I wanna know is why when talk turns to men's vaginas you come in and become an authorative source?

LOL  Here, I think you left this sitting on the kitchen counter when you left the house this morning.

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I left it there because I couldn't understand it

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Aug 24, 2016 5:19:05 GMT -6 @bearsinhouston said:

Aug 24, 2016 5:15:22 GMT -6 @soulman said:

LOL  Here, I think you left this sitting on the kitchen counter when you left the house this morning.

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I left it there because I couldn't understand it

LOL   No shit.

[riczaj01]

Team cannot afford to have Long miss to many reg season games. Houston not having Watt for the game won't mean much if the Bears also lose their best(and not close to the rest) OL'men. Those Hou LB's will expose the Bears interior OL.

[mikegolf]

I am concerned with the amount of injuries we have and to several key players. What I don't know is how many of these guys would play if it was a regular season game? With the two concussion injuries, I am seeing the same trend across the NFL of how teams are handling concussion. This seems to be a NFL mandated recovery. Either way the main idea for core players is to make it to the regular season. I just hope these guys are not seriously hurt and it is just coaches being safe.

[riczaj01]

Anyone know anything about the labrum? Listening to 670 they are saying this isn't something that can get better, but something that merely can be minimized via drugs and trying to keep it immobile w/a sling, but not something that will ever untorn.

[AlexM]

Aug 24, 2016 12:51:57 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Anyone know anything about the labrum? Listening to 670 they are saying this isn't something that can get better, but something that merely can be minimized via drugs and trying to keep it immobile w/a sling, but not something that will ever untorn.

check previous posts

[riczaj01]

Didn't give me the answer I wanted

michaelgleibermd.com/news/common-nfl-injuries-unrealistic-recovery-expectations/

SHOULDER INJURIES

Dislocation. An injury resulting from a fall or hit, causing the top of the arm bone to be forced out of the shoulder socket.
Recovery Time: A dislocated shoulder should heal within four to 12 weeks. Exactly how long the recovery time is depends on a number of factors, including the amount of structural damage to the muscles at the time of the dislocation, the age of the patient (younger patients heal faster) and the physical therapy regimen. Depending on the presence of a labral tear or other tissue injury, there may be a greater incidence of re-dislocation and additional time may be required until return to play. Once the healing process is over, the patient should have full range of motion, though some activities, such as sudden torque or deceleration on the shoulder, will still cause pain for up to a year.

AC (acromioclavicular) joint injury. The AC joint sits between part of the shoulder blade and collar bone. Damage is usually to one or both of the ligaments.
Recovery Time: Several techniques for treating an AC joint separation with surgery exist. Most of them involve reconstructing the ligaments. Pins or plates may be used to improve stability. After surgery, the patient will need to wear a sling for about four weeks. Six to eight weeks of physical therapy may also be needed to regain full motion. People who enjoy activities that involve shoulder strength or speed may not be able to do these things for up to six months.

For weekly updates on spine injuries in the NFL, see my weekly NFL injury roundup.


It sounds like this could be a problem for him all year b/c his job requires "sudden torque" and "deceleration"

[AlexM]

Aug 24, 2016 13:01:09 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Didn't give me the answer I wanted

michaelgleibermd.com/news/common-nfl-injuries-unrealistic-recovery-expectations/

SHOULDER INJURIES

Dislocation. An injury resulting from a fall or hit, causing the top of the arm bone to be forced out of the shoulder socket.
Recovery Time: A dislocated shoulder should heal within four to 12 weeks. Exactly how long the recovery time is depends on a number of factors, including the amount of structural damage to the muscles at the time of the dislocation, the age of the patient (younger patients heal faster) and the physical therapy regimen. Depending on the presence of a labral tear or other tissue injury, there may be a greater incidence of re-dislocation and additional time may be required until return to play. Once the healing process is over, the patient should have full range of motion, though some activities, such as sudden torque or deceleration on the shoulder, will still cause pain for up to a year.

AC (acromioclavicular) joint injury. The AC joint sits between part of the shoulder blade and collar bone. Damage is usually to one or both of the ligaments.
Recovery Time: Several techniques for treating an AC joint separation with surgery exist. Most of them involve reconstructing the ligaments. Pins or plates may be used to improve stability. After surgery, the patient will need to wear a sling for about four weeks. Six to eight weeks of physical therapy may also be needed to regain full motion. People who enjoy activities that involve shoulder strength or speed may not be able to do these things for up to six months.

For weekly updates on spine injuries in the NFL, see my weekly NFL injury roundup.


It sounds like this could be a problem for him all year b/c his job requires "sudden torque" and "deceleration"

Sure does! Then we're FUBAR

[4dabers]

As we discussed in another thread, these are the types of things that make pre-season predictions about wins/losses completely useless.  We've already lost our starting Center for he season, if our best O-Lineman goes down for even part of the season, that is 2/5 of our line.  Given what may result, we could also see the loss of our Starting QB, and that is a big "IF" that he doesn't just say F-it and retire in mid season.

I don't want to over play it or be too dramatic, but more than one significant injury in any position group is difficult to overcome.  Nobody has that kind of depth in the modern NFL.  If back-ups could be starters, they would be starters somewhere else.  If I remember right, the Packers had a slew of O-Line injuries a few years back and I think they did pretty damn well, so it CAN be overcome, but that is the exception to the rule.   

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Aug 24, 2016 12:51:57 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Anyone know anything about the labrum? Listening to 670 they are saying this isn't something that can get better, but something that merely can be minimized via drugs and trying to keep it immobile w/a sling, but not something that will ever untorn.

I posted this earlier.  As usual The Score talks about what they know not.  There are several different types of labrum injuries which affect shoulder motion and stability.  That link will take you to a discussion on them Ric.  If it's not a tear it's just a matter of treating the soreness and discomfort.  If it is a tear it can be surgically repaired but that's more rare that it simply healing on it's own.  My guess is they'll keep him out for a bit and maybe in a shoulder harness for support for now then see where they're at.  If it continues to be an issue they'll probably tape him up good or fashion a harness of some sort for games and if surgery is needed it will come after the season.


Seems like your knowledge of them is correct. They can be treated without surgery.


www.verywell.com/labral-tear-torn-shoulder-labrum-2549805


Treatment of a Torn Labrum

Treating a torn labrum depends on the type of tear that has occurred. Most labral tears do not require surgery; however, in patients who have persistent symptoms despite more conservative treatments, surgery may be necessary. For more information about treating a labral tear, read about the specific type of tear listed above.