Emma: Bears Leaving Real Reasons For Concern

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At least one media guy has it nailed down to the actual problem. Try as we might no matter what we do we seem snake bit when it comes to that OL. We can't proceed offensively until that's fixed.

[blueshoes]

One thing I don't agree with is this 'blame the offense' thing I keep hearing w re to the D giving up points . Sure they will get tired after say 4 three and outs by the O - but what about b4 then ? Simple fact is , if ur a good defense you make the opponent have a bunch of 3 and outs also .

Yes the O totally sucked , but the D needs to be better than they've been also - otherwise this team is really gonna suck .

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The upside is if we have a really crap season then we could be in the running for the top pick and a shot at a potential franchise QB.

[riczaj01]

Aug 29, 2016 4:08:34 GMT -6 blueshoes said:

One thing I don't agree with is this 'blame the offense' thing I keep hearing w re to the D giving up points . Sure they will get tired after say 4 three and outs by the O - but what about b4 then ? Simple fact is , if ur a good defense you make the opponent have a bunch of 3 and outs also .

Yes the O totally sucked , but the D needs to be better than they've been also - otherwise this team is really gonna suck .

 The D needs to get stops on 3 rd and whatever, and they have struggled to do that, but the O needs to actually allow them time to recover  and stay fresh. The O needs, at minimum, a few 1st downs and some drives that eat up 2-3 min's at a time. 

[riczaj01]

Aug 29, 2016 4:31:41 GMT -6 malagabears said:

The upside is if we have a really crap season then we could be in the running for the top pick and a shot at a potential franchise QB.

man that is a nice booby prize for many who were thinking 9-10 wins isn't it? I was thinking 6-8 wins, maybe an outside shot at 9, but even I would be stunned at sub 5 wins.

[AlexM]

Aug 29, 2016 4:35:53 GMT -6 riczaj01 said:

Aug 29, 2016 4:31:41 GMT -6 malagabears said:

The upside is if we have a really crap season then we could be in the running for the top pick and a shot at a potential franchise QB.

man that is a nice booby prize for many who were thinking 9-10 wins isn't it? I was thinking 6-8 wins, maybe an outside shot at 9, but even I would be stunned at sub 5 wins.

i do like a nice booby prize though

[hawkeye21]

The defense really did struggle with stopping drives but I was still impressed with their goal line defense. I agree that the defense should have done better shutting down drives early but the offense still needed to help some. You can't keep the defense out there that much and expect good results.

I wonder if the defense did so poorly stopping drives because they are just not that good yet or if it was more of a product of not being prepared for that type of offense. The Chiefs were throwing short passes across the middle non-stop. They ran a standard west-coast offense and it looked flawless against the Bears. It almost seemed like they weren't expecting it which would be on the coaches.

[Whisky Beer Bob]

Aug 29, 2016 7:37:16 GMT -6 hawkeye21 said:

The defense really did struggle with stopping drives but I was still impressed with their goal line defense. I agree that the defense should have done better shutting down drives early but the offense still needed to help some. You can't keep the defense out there that much and expect good results.

I wonder if the defense did so poorly stopping drives because they are just not that good yet or if it was more of a product of not being prepared for that type of offense. The Chiefs were throwing short passes across the middle non-stop. They ran a standard west-coast offense and it looked flawless against the Bears. It almost seemed like they weren't expecting it which would be on the coaches.

Good to see ya here Hawk.
  I was amazed at the soft coverage in the middle. I thought our new LB's were to be a bit better in pass coverage but again is it because of our expired" Soft Vanilla?" plays? 
 Maybe we should just allow the other teams to get to the 5 so we can REALLY show our D

[hawkeye21]

Aug 29, 2016 7:50:56 GMT -6 Whisky Beer Bob said:

Aug 29, 2016 7:37:16 GMT -6 hawkeye21 said:

The defense really did struggle with stopping drives but I was still impressed with their goal line defense. I agree that the defense should have done better shutting down drives early but the offense still needed to help some. You can't keep the defense out there that much and expect good results.

I wonder if the defense did so poorly stopping drives because they are just not that good yet or if it was more of a product of not being prepared for that type of offense. The Chiefs were throwing short passes across the middle non-stop. They ran a standard west-coast offense and it looked flawless against the Bears. It almost seemed like they weren't expecting it which would be on the coaches.

Good to see ya here Hawk.
  I was amazed at the soft coverage in the middle. I thought our new LB's were to be a bit better in pass coverage but again is it because of our expired" Soft Vanilla?" plays? 
 Maybe we should just allow the other teams to get to the 5 so we can REALLY show our D

Was it a product of poor defensive play are poor game planning.  Could be both I suppose.  I will admit that the west-coast offense can be hard to stop though.  It's designed to move the ball gradually and get yards after the catch.  When planned for it can be stopped though and the Bears made the Chiefs look like they ran it to perfection.

On glaring issue I kept seeing was the terrible coverage on punt returns.  Guys were not getting downfield enough to stop them and when they were they couldn't make the tackle.

[Whisky Beer Bob]

Aug 29, 2016 7:54:32 GMT -6 hawkeye21 said:

Aug 29, 2016 7:50:56 GMT -6 Whisky Beer Bob said:

Good to see ya here Hawk.
  I was amazed at the soft coverage in the middle. I thought our new LB's were to be a bit better in pass coverage but again is it because of our expired" Soft Vanilla?" plays? 
 Maybe we should just allow the other teams to get to the 5 so we can REALLY show our D

Was it a product of poor defensive play are poor game planning.  Could be both I suppose.  I will admit that the west-coast offense can be hard to stop though.  It's designed to move the ball gradually and get yards after the catch.  When planned for it can be stopped though and the Bears made the Chiefs look like they ran it to perfection.

On glaring issue I kept seeing was the terrible coverage on punt returns.  Guys were not getting downfield enough to stop them and when they were they couldn't make the tackle.

The ST players seem to be in their lanes just were easily moved away from the ball carrier. I am by far NOT the most educated of Football plays and such but it seemed like the lanes were being cleared out nicely by the KC blockers. And like you said when we finally got a chance we could not wrap up the runner.