Bears Fire OC Shane Waldron

[JABF]

Nov 12, 2024 17:53:28 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

LOL.... This is a good question

www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/hot-take-tuesday-why-are-the-fans-smarter-than-halas-hall/ar-AA1tYhXb?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=8c3885180e774ec6c94630e8020ebe63&ei=9

"It’s not inevitable. Matt Eberflus will be fired at the end of the season. I know many Bears fans have said, "This is the Bears; there’s no guarantee," but at this point, Matt Eberflus is on his third offensive coordinator in his last 11 games, and the players are miserable and going above his head to the front office. He will not survive.

That, of course, means that Caleb Williams will have a new coach and new offensive system in year two. Just like Justin Fields did. Just like Mitch Trubisky did. Heck, just like Rex Grossman did.

The Bears have literally done this for their last 4 first-round QBs they’ve drafted. They have learned nothing. Four quarterbacks, three different regimes, all with the same situation in year two."

Right now I figure it's 50/50 Caleb busts.  Lessor talents in his draft class look like they'll have better careers now.  Yes, it's only 9 games in.  But I'm getting that sinking feeling the Bears may (may) have failed again.

[mpbears68]

Nov 12, 2024 16:39:11 GMT -6 davidl said:

Nov 12, 2024 8:58:39 GMT -6 JABF said:

I was looking over Thomas Browns' experience and it is decent.  He has a Super Bowl ring as the Assistant Head Coach for the Rams under Sean McVay.  He's held a number of coaching positions from strength coordinator in the beginning of his career to TE coach, RB coach (his NFL position that he played), Passing Game Coordinator - and OC.  He has interviewed for some head coaching jobs too.  

I really like this guy as an interim OC.  We can see if he can do anything with this cesspool mess and salvage Caleb Williams.  

The change alone should be enough to get the team charged up — plus facing the Packers.  I am expecting a close game.

LOLOLOLOLOL

The players despise Flus by now.  Its completely obvious he has lost the locker room and is a lame duck.  He won't be back next year.  The team has clearly quit on him.

We are gonna get blown out 31-13


PS:
I listed my tickets for sale yesterday.  And this was a game I was really stoked to go to just a few weeks ago.

[mrdynamite32]

Firing Waldron was the obvious choice here. Now the question is whether or not Caleb is salvageable and can turn things around.

This is 2nd year Trestman all over again.

[mpbears68]

Nov 12, 2024 16:12:56 GMT -6 shark86 said:

www.windycitygridiron.com/2024/11/12/24294944/chicago-bears-report-matt-eberflus-was-initially-prepared-to-keep-shane-waldron-thomas-brown

“My understanding, as of last night, was that the plan was going to be: Waldron would stay,” Pelissero said. “They’d potentially move him upstairs, change some things operationally, but that he was going to remain the offensive coordinator.

Holy begeebus Flus is a clustertruck. That was his plan, to move Shame upstairs to the booth? SMDH.

How Flus is employed anywhere but Wal-Mart is one of life's great mysteries

[mpbears68]

Nov 12, 2024 19:02:48 GMT -6 JABF said:

Nov 12, 2024 17:53:28 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

LOL.... This is a good question

www.msn.com/en-us/sports/mlb/hot-take-tuesday-why-are-the-fans-smarter-than-halas-hall/ar-AA1tYhXb?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=8c3885180e774ec6c94630e8020ebe63&ei=9

"It’s not inevitable. Matt Eberflus will be fired at the end of the season. I know many Bears fans have said, "This is the Bears; there’s no guarantee," but at this point, Matt Eberflus is on his third offensive coordinator in his last 11 games, and the players are miserable and going above his head to the front office. He will not survive.

That, of course, means that Caleb Williams will have a new coach and new offensive system in year two. Just like Justin Fields did. Just like Mitch Trubisky did. Heck, just like Rex Grossman did.

The Bears have literally done this for their last 4 first-round QBs they’ve drafted. They have learned nothing. Four quarterbacks, three different regimes, all with the same situation in year two."

Right now I figure it's 50/50 Caleb busts.  Lessor talents in his draft class look like they'll have better careers now.  Yes, it's only 9 games in.  But I'm getting that sinking feeling the Bears may (may) have failed again.

How are you even surprised?

For years here we have talked about how they always hang on to bad coaches a year too long and always fail to align their QB-HC-GM axes.

Poles & Warren were supposed to be the new leadership that was gonna break these old bad habits.  But they both choked last offseason.  There's zero excuse for keeping Flus under the circumstances there and especially letting him hire another OC after he whiffed so badly on Getsy.  

I really like Poles and wanna keep him but yeah its getting harder and harder to defend either of these guys.

[butkus3595]

Nov 12, 2024 12:31:00 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

Nov 12, 2024 10:47:30 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

Obvious step. Had to be done. Flus just signed his own HC death certificate with the move as well...so I wonder how much of this was really him "going through his process" or the higher up's telling him what was going to happen.

Yeah. You do have to wonder that. And I also wonder why Poles did not also relieve him.

I know its the low hanging fruit...and after the game I wanted everyone fired...but I don't know that it would really do anything. The biggest issue to me is the play calling, and you're not hiring the new HC during the season. Flus will likely be gone at the end of the season.

[shortfacedbear]

Honestly, Flus was lost when Phil Snow left on defense. He could at least hang his hat on that.

The CAROLINA PANTHERS have a chance of having a better record. Let that sink in a minute.

Nothing improves until the 101 year old owner and relatives are gone.

[JABF]

Nov 12, 2024 19:18:17 GMT -6 mrdynamite32 said:

Firing Waldron was the obvious choice here. Now the question is whether or not Caleb is salvageable and can turn things around.

This is 2nd year Trestman all over again.

Funny you should say that because for awhile now I have thought how this feels so "Trestman like" and it gives me the creeps.  Bad vibes to the max.  

[davidl]

Nov 12, 2024 19:15:21 GMT -6 mpbears68 said:

Nov 12, 2024 16:39:11 GMT -6 davidl said:

The change alone should be enough to get the team charged up — plus facing the Packers.  I am expecting a close game.

LOLOLOLOLOL

The players despise Flus by now.  Its completely obvious he has lost the locker room and is a lame duck.  He won't be back next year.  The team has clearly quit on him.

We are gonna get blown out 31-13


PS:
I listed my tickets for sale yesterday.  And this was a game I was really stoked to go to just a few weeks ago.

You may be right. I have misjudged this team all year.  I was just thinking they might come out and play hard for their new OC.

[mpbears68]

Nov 12, 2024 19:55:39 GMT -6 butkus3595 said:

Nov 12, 2024 12:31:00 GMT -6 bearsinhouston said:

Yeah. You do have to wonder that. And I also wonder why Poles did not also relieve him.

I know its the low hanging fruit...and after the game I wanted everyone fired...but I don't know that it would really do anything. The biggest issue to me is the play calling, and you're not hiring the new HC during the season. Flus will likely be gone at the end of the season.

All that is true but the team seems to have quit on him.  We all saw what happened after the Wash debacle.  He dodged responsibility and lost his players' respect.

It would also be nice if the organization ever followed through on its accountability talk.  Flus blew it.  Not gonna go through all the details we all know but he has shown himself clearly to not be the HC of the future.  Is there any point in wasting another 8 games of Williams time on this knucklehead?

Hightower would have been a fine interim HC.

This smacks of either George meddling or Poles not wanting to admit he was wring.