Bears Have a Massie-ve Problem at Right Tackle..............

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Sept 14, 2016 7:41:57 GMT -6 AlexM said:

Sept 14, 2016 7:37:52 GMT -6 JABF said:

That's a valid argument.  I just don't see Cutler lasting many games if is the RT is as bad as Massie.  I see that Mike Adams is listed as the RT backup on the Bears depth chart.  He was drafted in the 2nd round in 2012 by the Steelers.  I don't know ANYTHING about him.  Maybe he can step in.  I don't know the answer though.  I do know that I don't want Brian Hoyer as our starting QB, anytime soon, due to Cutler getting injured due to Massie being unable to protect him.

Here is Mike Adams draft profile (LOL, with our luck he's probably a "poor man's" Massie):



Keep the faith JABF, give it another 2-3 games, this is his first game! Im not hes gonna get faster footwork, I just feel they will blend better and he will have good games for us, hes no Mills or Webb

No he's a better run blocker but as a pass blocker I'm not so sure.  Webb actually could pass block when he set his mind to it but he wasn't smart and he was too much of a goof ball and lazy.  He could have been very good if he'd have wanted to be but he was more content to do just enough to keep a job and collect a paycheck.   Hell, he's still playing for Seattle so this is his 7th year in the league.  He's made millions by being big and just good enough to keep.

[dachuckster]

Sept 15, 2016 0:34:48 GMT -6 @soulman said:

Sept 14, 2016 4:50:30 GMT -6 dachuckster said:

Don't forget how terribly Leno played at RT.  From the comments last year by Fox and Magazu, they think Leno's home is at LT.  I am sure we could do better than Leno at LT eventually but just saying he was worse than Massie at RT.

So because Leno doesn't have the physical skills to play RT well and has always been a LT are we supposed to use that as an excuse for Massie who for four years has been a starting NFL RT?  He should be a whole lot better than Leno as a RT I'd say.

Just saying that Leno is not likely a good option at RT.  No excuses for Massie at all.  If he does not work out, kick him to the kerb and get someone else.

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Saw this on my Twitter Fed this AM:
Jay Cutler was under pressure on 54% of his snaps. That's a Massie've problem.

[omc1969]

I'm going to reserve judgement for a couple more games. It takes some time for a "O" line to gel. This line needs that time and they just brought in a player last week. Cannot expect even normal play until they get the reps together and learn each others tendencies. I'm not saying they will be good but I'm willing to give them the chance to work together before I unleash on them.

[AlexM]

Sept 15, 2016 6:44:34 GMT -6 omc1969 said:

I'm going to reserve judgement for a couple more games. It takes some time for a "O" line to gel. This line needs that time and they just brought in a player last week. Cannot expect even normal play until they get the reps together and learn each others tendencies. I'm not saying they will be good but I'm willing to give them the chance to work together before I unleash on them.

Exactly my thoughts! And happy BDay!

[omc1969]

Thanks Alex !

[shark86]

Sept 15, 2016 6:44:34 GMT -6 omc1969 said:

I'm going to reserve judgement for a couple more games. It takes some time for a "O" line to gel. This line needs that time and they just brought in a player last week. Cannot expect even normal play until they get the reps together and learn each others tendencies. I'm not saying they will be good but I'm willing to give them the chance to work together before I unleash on them.

Hey, happy birthday ol' buddy!

Agreed, it will take some time for the line to gel. But, and this looks like a really big but, Massie's feet look  like they are set in gelled concrete. I hope he can get his act together, but have seriuos doubts. He is the weakest link on the line and he worries me. At least his side is the direction cutty is facing so that should help him pick up the rusher. But if cutty is watching for massie's unblocked rusher he won't be looking for receivers.

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Gelling and/or cohesiveness is more of a worry for the run game.  The OTs still have to handle their guy or get help from a TE or RB most of the time.  The OGs and OC have to keep the pocket clean so they're dealing with the inside rush.  Massie was losing his battles on the outside where there is no help.  He has to take them well behind the pocket and not lose contact and let them duck under his block and get back inside of him.

Of course if we can run the ball better that alone will make life more pleasant for Cutler.

[JABF]

Sept 15, 2016 0:46:41 GMT -6 @soulman said:

Sept 14, 2016 7:41:57 GMT -6 AlexM said:

No he's a better run blocker but as a pass blocker I'm not so sure.  Webb actually could pass block when he set his mind to it but he wasn't smart and he was too much of a goof ball and lazy.  He could have been very good if he'd have wanted to be but he was more content to do just enough to keep a job and collect a paycheck.   Hell, he's still playing for Seattle so this is his 7th year in the league.  He's made millions by being big and just good enough to keep.

I wasn't going to go there (J'Marcus Webb comparison) but I was sure thinking about it.  Webb has more athleticism.  I watched him play for Seattle in the pre-season and he looked decent.  Not great, but decent.  He was playing RT that game.  He played RG last week for Seattle and had a few rough plays for sure.  I think he's a better tackle than guard, but he's versatile enough that Seattle can play him about anywhere.  He's a huge man with good athleticism.  I don't think he'll ever be a great player, but I'd rather have him right now at RT than Massie.  

[bearjim]

Sept 15, 2016 13:31:23 GMT -6 @soulman said:

Gelling and/or cohesiveness is more of a worry for the run game.  The OTs still have to handle their guy or get help from a TE or RB most of the time.  The OGs and OC have to keep the pocket clean so they're dealing with the inside rush.  Massie was losing his battles on the outside where there is no help.  He has to take them well behind the pocket and not lose contact and let them duck under his block and get back inside of him.

Of course if we can run the ball better that alone will make life more pleasant for Cutler.

I agree Soul. I know when we don't make 1st downs there isn't a lot of carries to go around but I'd also like to see Carey & especially Howard getting some carries sooner than later.